The Discovery Institute's (DI) Evolution 'news' and Views site has a new post, it's from davey 'klingy' klinghoffer and it sounds as if he's pissed! "Say What You Want About Intelligent Design" Davey is repeating a common theme, he doesn't like what people say about Intelligent Design (ID). Poor davey!
"Literally, say whatever the hell you want. You can say things that are true. Or you can say things that are false. Either is fine, but with most mainstream media outlets, false is likely preferable.Writing at the slick science magazine Nautilus, Brian Gallagher demonstrates yet again that there is no accountability when criticizing ID is on the agenda. He tries to draw a line connecting last month’s story about Turkey eliminating evolution from 9th grade science class, with “fundamentalist” Christianity, with creationism, with intelligent design, and with academic freedom legislation."
One of davey's whine is how ID is defined, but the definition keeps changing, as noted in "Surprise! The definition of ID has 'evolved'" It seems that one of the tactics that the DI uses is to complain about how ID is characterized -- even though they have yet to establish a formal definition and explanation of ID. It's like they refuse to allow themselves to be pinned down, and therefore can complain about someone anytime they say something that isn't immediately supportive and positive.
OK, so we have two points, can we extend that line to Creationism? I believe so.
Who have been ardent supporters of their religion being the basis for education in this country? Who have been arguing against any subject, particularly evolution, that they claim undermines their religious beliefs? If you look at folks like McLeroy, Owens Fink, and Maguire you will find they are Creationists. They were pushing for the addition of Creationism for years and only switched to ID as a tactic. It's not just them, it was the school board in Dover PA which lead to the Kitzmiller et al v. Dover School Board trial which was so devastating to the ID movement. It was groups that led up to many, if not all, of the lawsuits that results in religion being removed from the science classroom, at least in public schools. 'Creationist' is the modern term, but there have been other names for them. What it boils down to is the actions, and their actions are to impose their religious beliefs on any and all students regardless of whether those beliefs are shared or even if those beliefs mean anything. Think I am stretching here, well then tell me how science works when all you have to rely on is your religious beliefs? How many diseases have been cured, how many scientific breakthroughs have been accomplished through religious beliefs? Doesn't look like any of them, does it?
So we've stretched a line from Turkey through Fundamentalist Christianity to Creationism, next stop Intelligent Design. Anyone remember this post: "Does Anyone Actually Believe the Discovery Institute when They say They are not Advocating Teaching Intelligent Design?". How about a few highlights:
- A 'Teacher Training Program' as part of the DI's 'Publicity and Opinion-making' phase. ( (Wedge Strategy Document, Phase II, page 6)"
- "We will also pursue possible legal assistance in response to resistance to the integration of design theory in public school science curricula. (Wedge Strategy Document, Phase III, page 7)"
- "The Intelligent Design and Evolution Awareness (IDEA) Center . . . to promoting intelligent design theory . . . among students, educators, . . . and anyone else interested.
- Our primary focus is to help students form "IDEA Clubs" on university and high school campuses to expand the dialogue over intelligent design" (IDEA Club Website)
- In Texas where they were 'advising' the Creationist head of the state school board on public school curricula and textbooks.
- To their own website with:
- Education Curricula -- They have written educational material for teaching Intelligent Design!
- Key Resources for Parents and School Board Members
- The failed Santorum Amendment
"A number of anti-evolution bills have been introduced in the United States Congress and State legislatures since 2001. Purporting to support academic freedom, supporters have contended that teachers, students, and college professors face intimidation and retaliation when discussing scientific criticisms of evolution, and therefore require protection. Critics of the legislation have pointed out that there are no credible scientific critiques of evolution. An investigation in Florida of the allegations of intimidation and retaliation found no evidence that it had occurred."
- Crocker's contract was up and she was not re-hired partly because she was failing to teach the subject she was hired to teach -- science.
- Gonzalez was not given tenure because he failed in his responsibilities as a professor with graduate students after 7 years in the job. Seven years and only one completed graduate student and hardly any research funding. Very poor showing for a tenure seeking professor! But he was not fired.
- Sternberg was the already outgoing editor of a minor biological journal who, on his way out the door, violated the journals review procedure to publish one of his friend's ID paper, and now he works for that same friend at the DI.
- Freshwater was fired for a number of things including failing to do his job, lying to investigators, trying to get his students to lie for him, and burning crosses into kids arms. He tried to take his case all the way to the US Supreme Court, after failing at all the other levels. It didn't work.
- Coppedge was simply downsized and tried to turn it into a religious discrimination suit and failed. Of course he looked pretty bad when all the evidence showed that he was a poor employee (there were complaints), liked to preach his religion to his co-workers (there were more complaints), and refused to keep his skills current.
One last quote from davey:
"He repeats the myth about ID as “rebranded” creationism. Hardly. One is an inference from science, the other from the Bible. That’s a big difference. One regards the great age of the Earth, reckoned in billions of years, with equanimity and is open to the idea of common descent. The other doesn’t and isn’t."Here is where davey plays a little redefinition with Creationism. He tends to forget that not all Creationists are what are called Young Earth Creationists (YEC), but that's one of his criteria trying to convince people that ID isn't Creationism. But the age of the Earth and common descent are not the common theme that connects Creationism, regardless of what specific strain you might follow. Here's a common definition:
"Creationism is the religious belief that the universe and life originated "from specific acts of divine creation," as opposed to the scientific conclusion that they came about through natural processes." (Wikipedia: Creationism)Anything in there on common descent or the age of the Earth? Nope! There are many varieties of Creationism, but they all share this belief that everything originated through the actions of a deity and not natural processes. For comparison, ID proponents claim that:
"certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection." (Wikipedia: Intelligent Design)Notice anything similar? Without offering any evidence, they make a claim that natural processes couldn't be responsible. The only difference is that they hide their references to a deity. This is a tactic, and their own guiding document, the Wedge Document, also called the Wedge Strategy. It's the game plan used by ID proponents and it specifically calls for:
"To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God"
So just looking at davey's whine doesn't seem to much any sense. It's just the usual vitriol aimed at something who calls them, not only like they see them, but like they are. Nature and Brian Gallagher are simply telling the truth, but it's a truth that the DI has been trying to hide for years.