A new post over at the Discovery Institute site is pretty typical of their tactics, what I like to call their 'Tactics of Mistake'. Here it is: "Helpful Atheist Makes a Case for God". In it they summarize something PZ Myers said and then do the something typical -- moving the goal posts:
"But we can ask an interesting question . . . How far back can contingency go? . . .
Myers would likely reply that “the primordial universe is the start. The universe is the fundamental existing thing.” That’s the stock atheist answer. But it’s wrong — the universe can’t explain contingency completely. Here’s why."
Look at what they did, they ask a question -- which is fine, but then they form an answer as they claim Myers would answer it. I don't know how Myers would answer it, but even if he gave the answer they claim, within the context of what Myers said, it would still be a perfectly acceptable answer. The context wasn't 'essential cause chains', what they did was change the context and then spend the rest of the post explaining why Myers, and Evolution, is wrong.
What's funny is the artificial distinction they use to explain 'accident contingency' and 'essential contingency'. There is nothing in the definition of an contingency that requires the continued existence of the parent contingency. Here is how they define it:
There is no evidence that however life started, it required a first cause to be outside of nature. Remember it's not a requirement for the Theory of Evolution to explain exactly how life began, only that once it did, it evolved and been evolving ever since. Yes, word games can make all this sound important, but the reality, all the DI's efforts to insert God into the equation have amounted to nothing. Now they go a further step and try an tie in the concept of Atheism:
What's funny is the artificial distinction they use to explain 'accident contingency' and 'essential contingency'. There is nothing in the definition of an contingency that requires the continued existence of the parent contingency. Here is how they define it:
"Essential causal chains are causes and effects that depend on the continued existence of the entire causal chain to produce an effect."Does this make any sense to you? They are trying to create this new concept called 'essential causal chains' and claiming that everything in the chain must continue to exist or the end result cannot exist. Then they end with:
"So evolution, as a contingent process in nature that contains some essentially ordered series of causes, requires a First Cause that is outside of nature. Of course, that First Cause is what men have called God.Really? Other than twisting around words, what have they provided that supports their contention that Evolution requires a first cause? And even if one is required, why does it have to be outside of nature? That's the part of their explanation they never seem to support. The only reason seems to be that they have to have something outside of nature or they will never accept it.
There is no evidence that however life started, it required a first cause to be outside of nature. Remember it's not a requirement for the Theory of Evolution to explain exactly how life began, only that once it did, it evolved and been evolving ever since. Yes, word games can make all this sound important, but the reality, all the DI's efforts to insert God into the equation have amounted to nothing. Now they go a further step and try an tie in the concept of Atheism:
If P.Z. Myers follows his own argument about contingency a bit further, he would see that atheism is inconsistent with the contingency on which evolution necessarily depends."
Is the Theory of Evolution and Atheist theory? Seriously, what in science addresses the concept of God? God has always been within the realm of philosophy and metaphysics -- not science. So, in fact, all of science can be considered atheistic. Just like all of mathematics, cooking, finance, language . . . it's a pretty long list of all the things that fails to pay homage to a deity. But does that make them inherently atheistic?
Of course not, but that doesn't stop folks like the DI from making the claim. It's their belief set that requires it, and that's why they play these sort of 'bait and switch' games.
Of course not, but that doesn't stop folks like the DI from making the claim. It's their belief set that requires it, and that's why they play these sort of 'bait and switch' games.
First, customers are "baited" by merchants advertising products or services at a low price, but when customers visit the store, they discover that the advertised goods either are not available or are not as good as expected, or the customers are pressured by sales people to consider similar, but higher-priced, items ("switching")." (Wikipedia: Bait and Switch)
The DI baited their argument with PZ Myers words, changed the definition and then went on to make their point about evolution and then somehow turned it into a atheism hit piece. Creative, maybe, but not very well done at all. Pronouncements like these require more evidence than 'Because I said so!"
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