tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5506870823292198189.post8288649580475055148..comments2023-09-16T09:31:23.577-04:00Comments on Please be patient, I am evolving as fast as I can!: Melanie Phillips is still wrongTed Herrlichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03194189686075222808noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5506870823292198189.post-12386131567724745522009-05-20T12:33:40.033-04:002009-05-20T12:33:40.033-04:00Exactly. Conspiracy, my butt. Look at all the flap...Exactly. Conspiracy, my butt. Look at all the flap about Ida. I posted a link to the PloS guy and a critique by laelaps on my blog. There is no circling the wagons. These guys are brutal, which I guess is as it should be.scriptohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17899049404620738944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5506870823292198189.post-77420885362028020802009-05-20T08:46:22.508-04:002009-05-20T08:46:22.508-04:00But it's easier to blame the big bullies of scienc...But it's easier to blame the big bullies of science rather than your own lack of actual scientiifc work. Ben Stein called it "Big Science" in his mockumentary "Expelled:". As if there is this huge organization, multi-national in scope and spanning centuries of time, just to put down their ideas. Apparently Melanie agrees with him.Ted Herrlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03194189686075222808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5506870823292198189.post-32320491735867596322009-05-19T18:11:22.106-04:002009-05-19T18:11:22.106-04:00Contra Phillips, I'm pretty sure that if ID resear...Contra Phillips, I'm pretty sure that if ID researchers really wanted to do science, they could get some papers published on the subject.<br /><br />Behe and Dembski claim basically that life on Earth was <I>created</I> with a ready made molecular toolbox-a set of genes that organisms might find useful in the future-and that they could use evolution/natural selection to decide which tools to use and when, but that natural selection is insufficient to have put those tools together in the first place.<br /><br />Great! Bunch of cool research topics to explore then! Let's see:<br /><br />-catalogue the elementary toolkit that all modern organisms use<br /><br />-find the mechanisms in place that maintain the integrity of the elementary tools while they aren't be used: unused genes atrophy, so how did the toolkit genes survive hundreds of millions and billions of and more generations until the first multi-celled organisms started using the multi-cellular-specific tools, like I guess hox?<br /><br />-Dembski can continue working on the idea of specified complexity, and get it to the point that it's rigorous and makes some sense<br /><br />-IDiocy of course needs a better standard for irreducible complexity than Michael Behe's intuition, which has been empirically shown to be inadequate<br /><br />-and so on...<br /><br />Well, they could get published if they had any evidence or coherent theory to publish.Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5506870823292198189.post-88837873288904426742009-05-15T14:29:00.000-04:002009-05-15T14:29:00.000-04:00"Well of course they are non-existent -- because I...<I>"Well of course they are non-existent -- because ID is not in itself a scientific discovery"</I>She's got that right. Her irony meter must be broken.<br /><I>"I am not in a position to judge whether its arguments about ‘irreducible complexity’ and the logic of intelligent design are soundly based or not."</I>So why write the article? She's spectactularly ignorant of evolutionary and creationism. That's quite a feat.scriptohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17899049404620738944noreply@blogger.com